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Tuesday, September 1, 2009

Estimates & Measuring -PoP

State whether you agree or disagree with each of the following, and defend your position.
* An estimate is not a guess.
* If you can measure, why estimate?
* Linear measurements are not useful in everyday life.
* Unless a measurement is exact, what good is it?

22 comments:

  1. * An estimation is a very precise guess.
    * Being able to estimate is a good tool to know how to do. Anyone can grab a ruler and measure something, but if you can also estimate well you can proce to yourself that you know what you are really doing.
    * Linear measurements are useful in everyday life because you use a ruler everyday in school. Also when you hang a poster in your room or try to write on a piece of paper you trying to write as straight as you can. A model on a runway also makes a living walking in a straight line.
    * When you are making a chicken pot pie for example and you need to have four cups of chicken and you only have three and a half it is still going to turn out. This proves that yes, using exact measurements a lot of the time are nice. But not everything must be exact.

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  2. Guess is defined as: estimate or suppose (something) without sufficient information to be sure of being correct. Therefore i would have to disagree with the statement that an estimate is not a guess.

    Estimating is a good skill to have in general, because it allows us to do and judge things quicker, and it allows us to have a general idea when actually making our measurement.

    We use linear measurements in everyday life all the time, and they are very important. I like Jocelyn's point about how models make a living my walking in a straight line, their job requires them to.

    While it is usually better to be more exact with your measurements, not everything in life requires us to be perfectly exact. Just because a measurement is not exact doesn't mean its wrong,its only wrong if what you are doing requires you to be exact.

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  3. Although some people may consider an estimate to be a guess, it is not; it is an educated guess, or an assumption based on prior knowlege on the subject. If I were to estimate how many students were in the Paidea High School, I would first think of approximently how many were in my grade, then assume the same amount were in the freshmen, junior and senior classes. My estimate would be around 400 students. I used prior information to make an educated guess about the question.

    Measuring is a very useful way to find the exact lenth or weight of something, though sometimes measurements cannot deal with other untis such as amounts (Student example). You cannot "measure" how many students are in the high school, but you can estimate. Estimating can also come in handy when you do not have anything exact to measure with. You may find yourself estimating how many inches tall you are, or how many miles away from school you live.

    Linear measurements are important to every day life. If someone were trying to hang a poster (like Jocelyn mentioned earlier) it would be easier to use a linear measurement in order to hang the poster straight.

    Although exact measurements are useful in the world of math and science, people usually use estimated measurements when dealing with situations outside of school. For example: when someone is giving directions, they may tell another person to follow a road for "about 3 miles". Someone generally doesn't say "follow this road for exactly 2.8697234 miles, then take a right." When dealing with mathematical equasions, measurments should be exact. When dealing with situations outside of math, measurements can be estimated or rounded to make things easier.

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  4. I agree because when you can see the object you are saying it is about this number or close to this number. Which means you are guessing.

    Estimates can get you closer to an exact answer without you having to measure. Most people can tell you if something is between about 1 and 10 inches.

    Linear measurements are important because using linear measurements are used in everyday life. Whether you are hanging a poster or buying an entertainment area and need to know how big the space is to make sure the television fits.

    If its not exact it is good in the sense that it can be about the same number or close to. If I was measuring a cars length I would measure to the nearest foot instead of inches and centimeters.

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  5. I agree with Miranda on the fact that an estimate is an educated guess. Usually when you guess something you have little or no evidence to back yourself up, but with an estimate you may have a few numbers or ideas to back your estimate up.

    Sometimes you don't have enough time to measure every single thing that comes your way. That's where estimating comes in handy. For example, I could estimate that Phil is about 6 feet tall just by looking at him, instead of measuring him when I see him. (Which could potentially be an awkward situation)

    I think linear measurements can be very useful in everyday life. Like Jocelyn said, models walk in straight lines for a living. Each step of that walk is calculated right up to where you turn and pause and go back down that runway. If you make a small step off that line, you collide with another model and the show can be a bust. (Just continuing onto that train of thought :D)

    Sometimes it's ok not to have exact measurements. In cooking, if people put the EXACT amount of salt or pepper a recipe called for, it could sometimes be as little as 1/16 of a teaspoon, where instead, you could just put a pinch and it would turn out fine.

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  6. 1. I do think that an estimate in not a guess because a guess implies that there's no information to back up what you're saying and it was strictly random.

    2.We estimate because it's impossible to get every measurement exactly precise, so sometimes it's necessary to use estimation.

    3.I think linear measures can be useful to a certain extent, such as knowing not to cross over the yellow lines while driving, that are linear. I wouldn't classify linear lines as being the "meat and potatoes" of everyday life though.

    4. I think measurements can be helpful even if they aren't exact in particular occasions, but more often the measurements should be exact because whenever the time is taken out to measure something it's for a specific reason.

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  7. 1. An Estiment is an educated guess. So yes, that is exactly what it is.

    2. Well to contradict, If you can be just as well off with an estimation, why measure? Some things need to be precise, and some only need to be approximately. Why spend your valuable time doing something that isn't necessary.

    3. Linear measurements are most certainly necessary in every day life. From buying furniture, to making a trip to Home Depot, we depend on measurements.

    4. Well, Some things need to be precise, and some only need to be approximate. The more information you have, the better. So an measurement that isn't exact is better than nothing at all.

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  8. -An estimate is a guess, but it is a guess that one would make an educated inference and ponder upon before choosing something appropiate. This is the definition that www.dictionary.com gives us:
    to arrive at or commit an opinion about(something) without having sufficent evidence to support opinion fully. Clearly this is what estimating is, you commit to an idea or number with some knowledge without having evidence to back it up.
    - We would estimate because at times you cannot always have an exact measurement on something. Also, estimating helps you to get the big picture about something, if that's what you are going for.
    - I believe in the power of linear measurements used in everyday line. I see linear measurements being used in daily aspects of life. For example, the exchange and trading business, like most people I like seeing an upward trend on my stocks,bonds, and etc... I see linear measurements being used from thermometers to hydro-pumps.
    - See answer for "estimate question"

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  9. AN estimate is a very, very good guess, which can be supported mathematically.

    Estimating is easier than doing all the math straight out, because when you estimate, you don't have to worry about the small, tiny numbers, or decimals.

    Linear measurements can be useful in everyday life. The stock market, gas prices, fuel efficiency, ect. are mostly linear measurements.

    IF a measurement is not exact, it can give you a decent idea of what the measurement is. It is not practical to measure out many distances, but if you know about what they are, then you can use them.

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  10. An estimate is an educated guess, so i do not agree.

    estimating leaves out the long decimals that one gets with measuring.

    linear measurements are useful for pricings, the stockmarket, etc.

    it gives you a very good idea of where something is, and is much simpler.

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  11. 1. An estimate is a guess that is extremely well informed. Generally, closer than you would get to the answer than if you just guessed.

    2. Because you may not have the proper tools by you, or you may not be able to use the extreme number of decimals that you would get with measuring.

    3. Linear measurements are useful for many different things. We wouldn't have the society and capabilities we have today without linear measurements.

    4. It's good because even if you don't know the exact number, you may still need some sort of measurement. How are people supposed to build houses and things without any type of measurement?

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  12. -An estimate is a an educated guess based on appearance and common knowledge.

    -Estimating is a good tool to use in general. Especially if you don't have the proper measuring tools.

    -Linear Measurements are useful for measuring things that are in a straight line.

    -No measurement is exact, so i have learned. So measuring things to the best of your abilities.

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  13. 1. Guessing can be defined as forming an estimate. Estimate is forming an approximate judgment or opinion regarding amount, size, weight, etc,. So I disagree. Guessing is not as exact as estimating usually tends to be but it estimation is a guess of an approximate judgement or opinion. Neither using any kind of measuring tools to the exact measurement.

    2. Sometimes you are not in a position to be measuring. You might not have a ruler so you'll have to use the size of a binder. So and So is approximately (and you could use the estimation sign) 5.5 binders. Or maybe you have a number that goes on forever and ever. You would estimate and round to the hundredth or thousandth.

    3. Linear Measurements are very useful in everyday life. When in science and you are doing a lab and you have to line two things up you are using linear measurements. Linear Measurements come up everywhere.

    4. Measurements can't always be totally exact. Say your getting a haircut and you ask them to cut an inch off. Chances are they almost never cut exactly 1 inch off. They probably cut .912543 inches or 1.00013985 inches, but that's close enough.

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  14. I agree an estimate is not a guess. I think that an estimate is something that you have information about. A guess is something that you have no clue about.

    Sometimes you cannot measure because you dont have the tools to measure. Sometimes something is to far away to measure or something is to big of a distance to measure and you have to estimate.

    I disagree i think that linear measurements can be useful sometimes to measure how far something is. Distance is a very important measurement in our lives because we have to use distance to judge when we need to leave to get places and how long it will take.

    I disagree because if a measurement is close you can use the information to help you out. Nothing we measure is exact.

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  15. An estimation is different from a guess. An estimation is an educated guess based on information that you have. A guess is less formal, and less likely to be correct, because it is less thought through. An estimation is a form of guess. But they are not the same.

    Estimation is used to take measurements that do not have to be exact. For example: I could estimate that someone is about 6 feet tall, however, I would measure that they are about 5'11'', but in most cases, It is not important to be so exact.

    Linear measurments are very important in everyday life. They are used in all sorts of proffesions from modeling (as was brought up earlier), to a financial job, or in architecture, ect.

    Measurements do not have to be exact to be useful. Even when you measure with a ruler it is impossible to be exact. However it can definetly cause problems if a meausurment is very incorrect.

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  16. An estimate is a kind of guess. guess (v): to estimate or suppose something without sufficient information to be sure of being correct. I think the definition speaks for itself. To clarify, just because something is a guess doesn't mean that it is not based on fact.

    Estimating can help you make sure your measured answer is correct by getting a general sense of what your answer should be.

    Linear measurements are not important in everyday life, unless you are in math class they are not crucial to your state of being. While having a general sense of linear measurements can be helpful, I think it depends on who is speaking to decide whether or not they are useful. Hopefully, people do not need to hang a straight poster everyday.

    If a measurement is not exact, and you need an exact measurement, it can be rather frustrating, like in math for example. However, having not an entirely exact measurement can at least give someone a general sense of the measurement.

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  18. An estimate is not a guess.
    Yeah, well you could say that I suppose. But first we must define the term guess, is a guess where you spin around 15 times and then point to a number on your ruler or number line and then that is your estimate/guess? If so, then no, guessing is not estimating, it's well completely random and nonsensical guessing, no offense to any of you who may or may not use that awesome spin around method. If a guess is saying well, I need to know how many inches that is, and it's about 3 feet, so 36 inches I guess... Then yeah, that's estimating. So if you are making an educated guess then yes, you are estimating, if you are making a random guess then no, you are, well guessing.

    If you can measure, why estimate?
    Well, when you measure you do estimate. When I measure I usually say "looks like, 25.6 mL," or "looks like, 12.5 inches..." I am usually making an estimation when i measure and when you measure something, chances are you're not going to get exactly 7 inches, or exactly anything. Usually the honest exact answer is gonna be like 7.000000000000001 or something ridiculous like that and your like, "looks like seven inches to me." That, at least in my book is estimating. For instance in chemistry we estimate alot to get to the appropriate number of significant figures, but we measure and then estimate one place or so. Also, you won't always have a measuring tool.

    Linear measurements are not useful in everyday life:
    Well, I'm a student. I use them for math and science, also if your measuring something for a recipe they are useful, or doing a peace of art, or seeing how long you can jump I mean I don't know these all things like things that everyday people do. I know I use linear measurements in my everyday life.

    Unless a measurement is exact, what good is it:
    Well, I mean better then not having any idea. Also, like I said earlier it's near impossible to get an "exact" measurement so.

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  19. 1. An estimate IS a guess, but an educated, more precise one.
    2. Estimation can be important in real-life situations in which you don't have a measuring tool handy. If you can make a close guess as to how long, wide, or deep something is, it's a good enough substitution for a more accurate answer.
    3. This is kind of a continuation of my previous answer, but linear measurements can be important in real life if you're measuring distance.
    4. This is also kind of repeating what I said in number 2, but using measurements that aren't exact is better than not even guessing at all.

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  20. -An estimate is not a guess.
    An estimate is a guess, but it is based on provided information. And is thus more precise

    -If you can measure, why estimate?
    Sometimes using actual measuring tools would be too tedious. For example scientists have estimated the width of the earth to a very precise degree, however they cannot physically go through the earth with a ruler to measure it exactly. Estimation based on previous knowledge is useful in such instances

    -Linear measurements are not useful in everyday life.
    They can be useful, but knowing that something will take about 10 minutes is more useful than knowing it will take 8 minutes and 54 seconds. Estimation allows time for human error which is a normal part of everyday life.

    -Unless a measurement is exact, what good is it?
    (See above)

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  21. Estimate is not a guess because you have information backing up the estimated answer.

    because if you can estimate well when there is a problem that doesnt ask for the exact answer you and estimate and save more time.

    linear measurements are great things to use in everyday life specially when you need an exact measurement.

    Idk good question.

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  22. an estimate is a guess but you can make that guess "educated" by having some information help you determine the estimate

    Estimating is most useful for checking answers if you can estimate what the answer should be close to and your answer is similar then it might be correct if your answer is completely different then your estimate you should check your answer.

    A measurement that is not exact can still help in some cases giving you an idea of what it is such as time saying 4 hours and 58 minutes is 5 hours well it is roughly 5 hours.

    Estimation is good in some cases in everyday life but somethings require absolute answers such as construction you need things to be se metrical and exact.

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